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Old 12-21-2016, 04:39 PM
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Arrow Telecom Regulatory Policy CRTC 2016-496 Dec2016

Big news today! The CRTC is pushing for and enacting for a more reliable and faster Internet in Canada, without the bullshit excuses for poor service conditions.

The term "up-to" is looking at no longer being used. This will lead to a stop sale on the over-subscription model, in order for quality of service to be supreme.

Will ITMP practises be more lenient in order to not slow down below the minimum speed threshold?

All this will be phased in over the next few years.

I'll link to this post for a quick writeup.
https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r31150650-
It should be noted that "satellite" is referring to communities that are dependent on commercial grade satellites for all their communication needs. There will be some clarification to come.

For wireline networks, minimum speed is 50Mbps down and 10Mbps up.
For wireless/satellite networks, still to be detailed. Looking at 25Mbps down and 5Mbps up would be good, but those with systems that take away from the upload to make faster download, don't want 5Mbps up.
There will also be minimum limits (200GB as a popular one) for GB per month, along with mandated add-ons to get extra GB.



CRTC Submission to the Government of Canada’s Innovation Agenda
http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/publicatio...1/rp161221.htm



Quotes on/from Xplornet
http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2016/2016-496.htm

broadband Internet access services
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40: Positions of parties

The large ILECs, the large cable companies,Footnote 23 and some other parties (including the British Columbia Broadband Association [BCBA], the Canadian Association of Wireless Internet Service Providers [CanWISP], and Xplornet Communications Inc. [Xplornet]) submitted that the Commission should continue to rely on market forces which, combined with new targeted government funding, will drive the expansion of fixed broadband Internet access service availability and fill any gaps in the near future. These parties generally argued that the Commission’s role should be to set benchmarks and monitor progress. Bell Canada et al. and Cogeco submitted that the Commission should report and make recommendations to the Government of Canada regarding the issues in question in the current proceeding.

Fixed broadband Internet access service criteria
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69: Many parties, such as Quebecor Media Inc., on behalf of Videotron G.P. (Videotron), and Xplornet, proposed that the Commission set a basic fixed broadband Internet access service definition for today, including speeds such as 5 Mbps download and 1 Mbps upload, and an “aspirational” objective for the future including more ambitious speeds. For this aspirational objective, many parties suggested a speed of 25 Mbps download, but there was some disagreement around the upload speed. Some parties suggested that it remain at 1 Mbps, and others submitted that it should be set higher. For example, OpenMedia proposed an aspirational upload speed of 15 Mbps.

Quality of service
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101: OneWeb, Ltd. submitted that Canadians need latency as low as 30 milliseconds (ms), while the Canadian Administrator of VRS (CAV), Inc. (CAV) suggested that a latency of up to 250 ms is acceptable. Xplornet submitted that mobile wireless services have a latency of approximately 100 ms and that satellite voice services have a latency of 400 ms, and that this has not prevented Canadians from adopting these services. The JTF suggested that jitter remain below 5 ms to ensure good-quality service. CAV and the FRPC recommended that packet loss be kept under 1%

Broadband funding mechanism
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115: The large ILECs, cable companies (e.g. Eastlink, RCCI, Shaw, and Videotron), as well as some other parties, such as the BCBA and Xplornet, generally submitted that no industry-funded mechanism for broadband Internet access service is warranted. They argued that market forces combined with government-funded initiatives should remain the primary means by which to continue to expand fixed broadband Internet access service availability in underserved areas.

Local voice services
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168: Xplornet submitted that there is no requirement for a basic service objective because there are sufficient alternative technologies to provide voice services today. TekSavvy added that most provisions included in the basic service objective remain mandated as components of voice service, and that these components are available from competing providers over broadband Internet access service.
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174: Many parties, including Bell Canada et al., CanWISP, Cogeco, Cree Nation/ECN, RCCI, Shaw, SSi, TekSavvy, Videotron, and Xplornet, submitted that the Commission should reduce, phase out, or eliminate local voice service subsidy.
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177: Xplornet suggested eliminating the local service subsidy regime over a one-year transition period. However, Cree Nation/ECN proposed that the local voice service subsidy should remain in place for a maximum of three years and should be phased out thereafter.
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:08 PM
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This could really help or cause the rates to rise . I sure hope Rogers opens up their wireless plans and stops screwing us in the ear. 145 bucks for 100 gigs is bullshit.
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:39 PM
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It's about time the CRTC kicked some of these ISP's in the balls. Unlimited - check, 50 Mbps down - check, everybody gets it - check. Xplornet loses subsidies - check. Xplornet loses shirt - check.
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Old 12-22-2016, 03:15 PM
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Xplornet loses subsidies - yes; Xplornet loses shirt - I hope not. I've already had one ISP go broke; that's how I ended up with Xplornet. If they fail I'm stuck with Rogers or Bell cellular...and having had both Rogers and Xplornet, and having heard about Bell, I really would rather stay with Xplornet, warts and all.
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Old 12-22-2016, 03:41 PM
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Xplornet proud to report new satellite launched capable of 25 Mbps down. Already out of sink with CRTC who say speeds will be 50 Mpbs down.
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Old 01-24-2017, 04:38 PM
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Xplornet proud to report new satellite launched capable of 25 Mbps down. Already out of sink with CRTC who say speeds will be 50 Mpbs down.
I have to correct my previous post. In order for Xplornet to ask for more gov't funds from the CRTC they have to have and offer 50 Mpbs service and since they are in no way going to do that the good news is no more money from the taxpayers pocket to support a crapped out service. Xplornet also has to offer unlimited data. We shall see when that happens.

Quote - In a landmark ruling this past December, the CRTC announced the Internet is a basic service. A huge win for Canadians, the decision requires that providers meet real-world performance speeds of 50 Mbps download and 10 Mbps upload in order to qualify for government funding. These speeds are very difficult to meet with current technologies like Bell's DSL offerings, which makes the wholesale rates of these next generation fibre Internet services critical to ensure Canadians aren't excluded from high speed services.
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